Victory Results:
 20 %
Record a victory for BOTTOM ARMY  80 %
Total plays 25 - Last reported by bartok on 2024-09-22 09:55:15

Historical Background
Napoleon had chosen Leipzig as his central position to defeat the widely separated Allied armies as they advanced to give battle.
Early on the 16th, Napoleon ordered Marmont’s Corps to join him, but Blücher, Napoleon’s implacable enemy, had advanced from the north more quickly than anticipated, and Blücher’s advanced guard required Marmont to turn back to face the approaching Prussians and Russians. With the French drawn up between Möckern and Podelwitz, Blücher went on the offensive.
Langeron’s Russians moved forward on Gross and Klein Wiederitzsch, while Yorck and the Prussians advanced on Möckern.
The Russians outnumbered the Poles, but many of the Poles were veterans of years of combat in Spain and fought fiercely from within the villages. The Russians advance was held off twice.
Langeron, hoping for a breakthrough, ordered his Russian cavalry to charge, but a counter charge by the Polish and French cavalry threw the Russian cavalry back. One final massive Russian push finally forced the Poles to abandon the villages. While at Möckern, the village changed hands a number of times through the day’s fighting. Finally, with all the Prussian reserves committed, Yorck ordered his cavalry to charge Möckern. The bold move swept away the remaining French in the village, but the exhausted Prussian cavalry was unable to pursue what was left of the French forces as they fell back.
The stage is set. The battle lines are drawn and you are in command. Can you change history?

 

Set-Up Order

Forest Hill Tower Town Ford Bend River End River RiverBend RiverBridge Town
8 14 1 1 1 1 3 8 1 9

Battle Notes

Prussian Army
• Commander: Blücher
• 5 Command Cards and 4 Iron Will Counters
• 5 Tactician Cards
• Move First

   

Line Infantry Light Infantry Miitia Infantry Grenadier Infantry Reserve Infantry Light Cavalry Lancer Cavalry Militia Lancer Cavalry Heavy Cavalry Horse Artillery Foot Artillery Leader   Line Infantry Light Infantry Cossack Cavalry Heavy Cavalry Light Cavalry Foot Artillery Leader
2 2 1 3 2 2 1 2 1 1 2 3   5 3 1 1 3 3 3

French Army
• Commander: Marmont
• 5 Command Cards
• 4 Tactician Cards

Line Infantry Light Infantry Light Cavalry Lancer Cavalry Cuirassier Heavy Cavalry Heavy Cavalry Foot Artillery Leader
12 4 3 1 1 1 1 4 6

Victory
15 Banners

Special Rules
• The Allies gain 1 Temporary Victory Banner at the start of the turn for occupying each town Gross and Klein Wiederitzsch. The French gain 1 Temporary Victory Banner when no Allied units occupy Gross or Klein Wiederitzsch. The French start with 2 Victory Banners.
• The Allies gain 1 Permanent Breakthrough Victory Banner for every unit, excluding Cossacks, that exit the battlefield from any hex on the French baseline.
• The three town hexes of Möckern, the Tower and Manor form a Temporary Majority Group Victory Banner worth 3 Temporary Banners for the Prussians and 2 Temporary Banners for the French. The French start with 2 Victory Banners.
• The Elster River is impassable except at the ford and bridge.
• The Stream has no battle restrictions, but stops movement and will break a cavalry charge. This means cavalry ordered by a Charge Command card will not gain additional die listed on the Charge card, if cavalry unit moves onto, starts on or is on a breakthrough through the stream.
• Pre-Battle Mother Russia Roll is in effect. Saber rolls have no effect.

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bartok replied the topic:
2 weeks 6 days ago
New game. Allies win 15-6 (5+1Leader). 11 Turns. 2 TVP for french (towns), 2 TVP for allies (towns), 0 VP for Allies Breakthrough.
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bartok replied the topic:
2 weeks 6 days ago
Allies win 15-10. 14 Turns. 3 TVP for french (towns), 0 VP for Allies Breakthrough
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bartok replied the topic:
3 weeks 2 days ago
Still appears "The French start with 2 Victory Banners for Gross or Klein". Faq of 510 Möckern - French Right explain that is only 1. Or is different for EPIC play. Then French Player starts with 3-0, and 4-0 is incorrect. Clarify me if i´m wrong.
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Mark-McG replied the topic:
4 years 1 month ago
MT20 results
4 French wins, 2 Prussian wins
Mark-McG replied the topic:
5 years 1 week ago
French 15-11 victory using the 4player EPIC rules.

interesting scenario, one that seems to be difficult to solve for the Allies. In this match the Russians were determined not to attack, and let the Prussians do the attacking. SO whilst the Prussians did take the Möckern walled farm reasonably quickly, they got held up here.

Meanwhile the French launched a series of assaults on the Russian lines, and the vast majority of the combat and losses took place on the French Right. Overall the Russians did pretty well, taking 8-9 French banners, and pushing into Klein Wiederitzsch and 1 hex of Grosser Wiederitzsch town, but here they were forced out by the French cavalry with bombarding artillery firing combined arms. End of the game, this flank was nearly empty, maybe 4 French and fewer Russians (2 poised to exit).

The centre was almost static, aside from artillery fire, virtually nothing was done, which isn't too surprising given the hard fighting on the Left & Right.

The Allies peaked at 13 medals vs 10, but the French took back the Wiederitzsch towns, reducing the Allies score to 11 (and gained a French banner), and destroyed 4 more units. Prussians lost 2-3 units and a leader.

looking at the results of the 2 normal scenarios, the Prussians are about 50/50, whilst the Russians are about 20%, so I have to figure the problem in the Russians, and even knowing they are weak, hard to prevent the French from attacking them. The terrain here favours the French, and the Centre is hard to move forwards for both sides.
RiverWanderer replied the topic:
5 years 3 weeks ago
Thank you Mark... the one place I didn't look!
Mark-McG replied the topic:
5 years 3 weeks ago
so looking at the FAQ response on the Mockern Right scenario
www.commandsandcolors.net/napoleonics/ma...16-october-1813.html

the French start with 1 Victory Banner

the Allies get 1 Victory Banner PER HEX, up to 3 Victory banners

I'm presuming the rule should be equivalent.
RiverWanderer replied the topic:
5 years 1 month ago
“The Allies gain 1 Temporary Victory Banner at the start of the turn for occupying each town Gross and Klein Wiederitzsch. The French gain 1 Temporary Victory Banner when no Allied units occupy Gross or Klein Wiederitzsch. The French start with 2 Victory Banners.”


I suppose this means that the French start with 1 victory banner.

Even so, I don't quite follow the Allies condition.
Does it mean that the Allies potentially gain 1 Temporary Victory Banner at the start of the turn for occupying Klein Wiederitzsch and at least 1 hex of Gross Wiederitzsch, or does it mean something else ?

Mark
Mark-McG replied the topic:
5 years 3 months ago
“The Allies gain 1 Temporary Victory Banner at the start of the turn for occupying each town Gross and Klein Wiederitzsch. The French gain 1 Temporary Victory Banner when no Allied units occupy Gross or Klein Wiederitzsch. The French start with 2 Victory Banners.”

why do the French get 2 Victory Banners for this rule?
Attila replied the topic:
6 years 6 months ago
The group I game with played this scenario twice 15 - 4 and 15 - 3 to the French on both occasions
Michalxo replied the topic:
7 years 6 months ago
Two French victories.

Once French managed to win quite easily 15-6.
Second game was quite tougher and despite Allied forces did their best, they lost 15-13. But if French player would not win in his turn, the very next turn 2 or 3 Russian units would escape the battlefield and securing 2 needed flags. I also think Allies could have won, if they would not forgot about possibility to escape through French baseline.. :)