OT2019 Round 5

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1 month 1 week ago #6280 by Kandras78
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GG06 Fleurus (26 June 1794) [OT2019-Round Five - 1st game]
Allies(Kandras78) 9 (7+3) vs French(mantra) 7

GG06 Fleurus (26 June 1794) [OT2019-Round Five - 2nd game]
Allies(mantra) 7 (6+1) vs French(Kandras78) 9

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1 month 1 week ago #6281 by Kandras78
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Here are the logs from Chris.

This scenario is a really provocative one. Initial starting position gives quitea lot to think about for both sides. Which leads to interesting and quite unpredictable situations. Both of our games could have ended with different results. All sections have seen intense action in the games.
This is one of the best fan made scenarios I have ever played.
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1 month 1 week ago #6282 by Kandras78
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Another try to upload files.

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1 month 1 week ago - 1 month 1 week ago #6283 by GG
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Kandras78 wrote: Here are the logs from Chris.

This scenario is a really provocative one. Initial starting position gives quitea lot to think about for both sides. Which leads to interesting and quite unpredictable situations. Both of our games could have ended with different results. All sections have seen intense action in the games.
This is one of the best fan made scenarios I have ever played.


TY very much Kandras78

Did you also tried it with the little changes I made recently on the Balloon rules? With a scout card the French player can now see the opponent FULL hand BEFORE ordering his unit plus he still can draw 2 CARDS (and choose one) at the end. This to have the French player use the balloon instead of choosing to draw 2 cards most of the time. Now he can do both (more fun) but this really doesn't change the balance of the game. GG

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1 month 1 week ago #6284 by Gileforn
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Ballon rule in the both variants is interesting, but I think it is not working here too much. It is a big random. For example, I have no any Scout cards during my play for the French side. On the other hand this scenario has very good speed and dynamic and usually French side don't have time to play scout for the baloons. I played this scenario four times, but baloons wasn't in use all time.

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1 month 1 week ago - 1 month 1 week ago #6285 by GG
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Gileforn wrote: Ballon rule in the both variants is interesting, but I think it is not working here too much. It is a big random. For example, I have no any Scout cards during my play for the French side. On the other hand this scenario has very good speed and dynamic and usually French side don't have time to play scout for the baloons. I played this scenario four times, but baloons wasn't in use all time.


1- Do we agree that with the new little change you watch the opponent cards AND you draw 2 cards at the end (and choose one)?

2- I agree that the goal of the Balloon is not to make the French stronger but (in addition with history) it's just to compensate the fact that sometimes the French may be sadly OBLIGED to use a scout card in emergency.

So yes the Balloon won't be used during each battle, but at least when using a scout card to find some missing cards, the French will watch the opponent cards as a BONUS.

Best regards - GG
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1 month 1 week ago #6286 by Gileforn
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1. Yes, I understand that baloons are additional option to the scout card. Yes, sometimes scout is in a play. It is interesting idea to show historical fact about baloons.

2. Yes, baloons will give just bonus, because the main thing making French side a lot of problems is banners for non-controlled cities. It is not too much usual and interesting.

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1 month 1 week ago #6287 by scipio1zama
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Fleurus (26 June 1794) – GG06


Fleurus – Game 1
French - Mike Stanley (scipio1zama) - 9 banners
Allies - Brent Steeves (BrentS) - 3 banners

The Allies launched a Cavalry Charge early in the game which put two French infantry units into square but cost the Allied cavalry five points of damage. The French riposte eliminated the Austrian HC and saw the Austrian LC R&R with heavy damage. Further fighting on the French right eliminated the French LT in square, but badly damaged two Austrian LN. French Elan eliminated an Austrian LN and LT, and put two hits on another Austrian LT. Then French Leadership eliminated an Austrian LC and LT, and put two hits on a Dutch LN, which was also soon eliminated. Further fighting on the Allied right cost each side a LN, and at this point the French were up 6-3. (The Allies had a third banner because Fleurus was unoccupied by the French)

An Allied Hold & Fire eliminated a French LN on the French right flank. Then Montaigu Took Command on the French left and eliminated both Dutch cavalry units and ran the Prince of Orange off the map. This put the French up 8-5, with the towns of Fleurus and Courcelles both unoccupied by French units.

Fleurus was finally occupied by the French, and Courcelles re-occupied, putting the banner count at 8-3, but that 9th banner proved elusive for the French. The French floundered around over the next 12 turns (6 Allied, 6 French) before finally eliminating an Austrian LN which was in Battalion Mass formation.

The Allies ran into a buzz saw in response to that initial Cavalry Charge, which set the tone for the game. I had good dice rolling (except there at the end) and I always had a card I could play.

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1 month 1 week ago #6288 by scipio1zama
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Here is the log file for the just reported game. Note that I misspelled the name of the scenario in making the logfile.
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1 month 1 week ago - 1 month 1 week ago #6289 by RiverWanderer
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Fleurus (26 June 1794) – GG06

Fleurus – Game 1
French - Nemo2333 - 6 banners
Allies - RiverWanderer - 9 banners


Allied opening volleys caused the French to pull back from Hippignies but had no effect around Courcelles, where the French soon had the Allies in trouble. Only exceptional performance by Dutch reserves managed to stabilise the situation.

With the attack on Courcelles at a stand-still, the Allies turned attention to Fleurus and Lambusart, penetrating as far as the Sambre to snag French General Marceau. At this point, the Allies were just two banners from victory and the French on three banners. However, this was deceptive; the French were reinforcing fast and the Allied frontline was over-extended and vulnerable. Successive turns quickly saw the French gain three banners, strengthen key areas and re-occupy all towns; the battle was now fully back in play.

The Allies needed a renewed attack but without the high casualty rate. Austrian Cavalry led the way, pinning French infantry in square on both flanks. This bought time for the Allies to manoevre strong infantry attacks against the vulnerable squares. Meanwhile, a French counter-attack from the centre came close to rescuing the battle but at the cost of abandoning one of the towns and, before the French could complete their recovery, "Cold Steel" finished off the remains of one of the French squares and a final lucky hit on Levebre got the Allies over the winning line.



We played the original rules but noticed that one French LN was not marked with a Conscript marker. Since the special rules simply stated that the French Line where inexperienced and didn't get the +1 in melee, we agreed to change this rogue LN to a Conscript like all the others. The card-bug caused us some trouble, despite care with the start.

Game 2 follows tomorrow.

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