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Raszyn - 19 April 1809

Historical Background
The Battle of Raszyn was fought between armies of the Austrian Empire and the Duchy of Warsaw, as part of the War of the Fifth Coalition in the Napoleonic Wars. The Austrians were defeated. The Austrian army under Archduke Ferdinand Karl Joseph of Austria-Este invaded the Duchy of Warsaw in April 1809. Polish troops under Prince Józef Antoni Poniatowski withstood the Austrians' attack on Warsaw, defeating them at Radzymin, and reconquered parts of former Poland, including Kraków and Lwów, by beating the Austrians near the villages of Góra and Grochów. For this victory, Poniatowski was presented with the grand-aigle de la Légion d'Honneur, a saber of honor, and a lancer's shako.
The stage is set. The battle lines are drawn and you are in command. Can you change history?

 

Set-Up Order

Forest 6
Hill 1
River 7
RiverBend 4
RiverBendBridge 2
RiverBridge 1
Town 5
TownWindmill 1
WalledFarm 1
Lake 2
Marsh 11

 

Battle Notes

Austrian Army
Commander: Archduke Ferdinand d'Este
5 x Command Cards
3 x Tactician Cards (Optional) 
Move First

Line Infantry Light Infantry Grenzer Light Infantry Light Cavalry Foot Artillery Horse Artillery Leader
2 2 1 3 1 2 2

Moving from 3rd Austrian Turn

Line Infantry Light Cavalry Cuirassier Heavy Cavalry Foot Artillery Leader
2 1 1 1 2

Moving from 5th Austrian Turn

Line Infantry Foot Artillery Leader
1 1 1

 

Polish/Saxon Army
Commander: Prince Józef Poniatowski
6 x Command Cards
4 x Tactician Cards (Optional)

Line Infantry Light Lancer Cavalry Foot Artillery Horse Artillery Leader   Line Infantry Grenadier Infantry Light Cavalry Leader
5 2 3 1 4   1 1  1  1

 

Victory
9 x Victory Banners for Austrian
7 x Victory Banners for Saxons/Poles

Special Rules
• Jaworowa, Raszyn and Michałowice are Austrian temporary victory banner objective hexes count 1 VP for each (Temporary Victory Banner)

• Falenty Małe hex (palace) is Polish/Saxons temporary victory banner objective hex counts 1 VP (Temporary Victory Banner)

• Lasek olszynowy 2 hexes are Polish/Saxons temporary group victory banner objective hexes count 1 VP for 2 hexes (Temporary Group Victory Banner)

• Austrian player can move reinforcement units starting from mentioned turn and has to begin these moves at any hex of first row of Austrian map's side, but according to played command card. Reinforcement units are moving due to standard game rules and move normally from the first hex they moved on board.
Reinforcement at 3rd Austrian turn: LDR d´Este, LDR Speth, 1x LC, 1x CU, 1x FA, 2x LN
Reinforcement at 5th Austrian turn: LDR Mondet, 1x LN, 1x FA

• Saxon commander impacts on Saxon units only, Polish commanders impact on Polish units only.

• Polish or Saxon units forced to withdraw through their edge of map, but only due to melee result, are allowed to do this, but cannot return onto map. They are not counted to Austrian VP.
Use french blocks for Polish and yellow blocks for Saxon troops and apply all french rules for both.

• Mrowa is a fordable river.

• If no side gains required amount of VP the battle is draw.

• Polish/Saxon player starts with 1x "First Strike" and 1x "Counterattack" cards on hand

• Austrian player starts with 1x "Bombard" card on hand.

• Austrian player starts with 1x "Bombard" card on hand.

• Hungarian Line Infantry (optional):
Hungarian regiments were pre-dominant in the front line; consider replacing the two initial Austrian Line infantry with Hungarian units.
See expansion #7 rules, section 6 for details.

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RiverWanderer replied the topic:
7 months 2 weeks ago

Thanks once again for your answer.
As I understand reading The Grand Battles rule book, the Leader of Honour rule will not be introduced this time (I saw the rule for the Iconic Leaders).
Do you know where the 8th expansion will be released on the P500 program ?

I don't know any more about exp 8 other than appears from Richard Borg in the preface to the exp 7 rulebook. It seems from that statement that the expansion, when it comes, will make more of Leaders of Honor than the Take Command card (or maybe it won't).

However, I'm happy to make a judgement on leaders that make sense to include for the "Take Command" extra order, especially for Grand Battle scenarios as it adds to the fun there. With that in mind, I recently shared a list based on my own thoughts and analysis on BGG here .
Hawkmoon replied the topic:
7 months 2 weeks ago
Thanks once again for your answer.
As I understand reading The Grand Battles rule book, the Leader of Honour rule will not be introduced this time (I saw the rule for the Iconic Leaders).
Do you know where the 8th expansion will be released on the P500 program ?
RiverWanderer replied the topic:
7 months 2 weeks ago

Your suggestion seems right. I don't speak Polish. What do you think of my proposal for Tactician cards ? (I'm not aware about the battle).
I don't speak Polish or know the history, except by courtesy of Google just now.

In configuring the scenario for the Vassal v5 module, I decided on 3 Tactician cards for the Austrians and 4 for the French, so only a little more conservative than your proposal. I had to decide on this for a number of fan scenarios, as many were produced before Expansion #5 saw the light of day; I recall trying to use comparable Commanders/Scenarios from official scenarios as my guide. So for example, 6 TCs would be reserved for the exceptional ones - Wellington & Napoleon mainly.

Fortunately, this is a flexible game and everyone can make their own judgement based on whatever they know or want out of the game. I'm open to persuasion for the Vassal module or better still, perhaps the designer will chip in.  (Aside for the Vassal module v5: you can modify initial card draws before a game from the File...Scenario Options window; for v4, it is a manual decision).

I will update the battle notes here and include another idea as an option, now that there is the official concept of Hungarian Line Infantry (expansion #7 rulebook , section 6). Vassal updates will follow soon and I can make further updates if the designer steps forward.
Hawkmoon replied the topic:
7 months 2 weeks ago
Thanks a lot for your answer !
Your suggestion seems right. I don't speak Polish. What do you think of my proposal for Tactician cards ? (I'm not aware about the battle).
RiverWanderer replied the topic:
7 months 2 weeks ago
- Where is Palac ?

Whilst we wait for TC to pick up, which may be a while (or not), I think I may have figured it out by a process of elimination comparing the Battle notes to locations on the battle map:

Special Rules:
•Jaworowa, Raszyn and Michałowice are Austrian temporary victory banner objective hexes count 1 VP for each.
•Pałac hex is Polish/Saxons temporary victory banner objective hex counts 1 VP.
•Lasek olszynowy 2 hexes are Polish/Saxons temporary group victory banner objective hexes count 1 VP for 2 hexes.


The only marked location on the map that is unaccounted for is "Falenty Małe" and it's a Polish/Saxon objective. By the way, by Vassal module convention, this and Lasek olszynowy ought to be  marked in blue.

Pałac it turns out means "palace" in Polish. Google search AI mentions Falenty Palace as the only significant palace to be found on the Raszyn battlefield. Sure enough, the Wikipedia entry for Falenty mentions the Palace and I found a  dedicated website to it which mentions its role in the battle (both in Polish).  Finally, this hex is using a building that allows 1 flag to be ignored. So, I conclude that Falenty Małe is the hex referred to.

I've convinced myself so I will do an update on the site and in the Vassal module for this point.
Hawkmoon replied the topic:
7 months 2 weeks ago
Hi some questions :
- Where is Palac ?
- How much Tactical cards for each side (I suggest 6 or 5 for Polish/Saxon side including a 1st Strike instead of having it in the Command cards and 4 or 3 for the Austrian side) ?
Thanks for your return