C3i17 Mona Insulis (60 AD)

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10 years 10 months ago #1488 by alecrespi
Mona Insulis 60 AD
Britons vs Roman
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C3i17 Mona Insulis (60 AD)

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5 years 6 months ago #1489 by mk20336
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Question to special rule "...and gain hit benefits for both Range and Close Combat.*" Does that mean hit on Leader?

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5 years 2 months ago #1618 by BrentS
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Just setting up to replay this one and yes, both close combat and ranged attacks hit on helmets if a druid is adjacent to the unit.

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5 years 2 months ago #1619 by Mark-McG
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"No Roman unit in any section may advance into the river until the start of a turn where the leader in that section is already on the Briton side of the river.*"

I would rate this as one of the most poorly expressed and ill considered Special Rules in the entire C&C series. Aside from making no sense without Tony Curtis's clarification, the concept that leaders die seems to have entirely escaped the designer. So with 2 of 3 Roman leaders dead, the scenario descends into a LENGTHY exchange of missiles.

Crossing rivers isn't easy to begin with, and if they had gone with something simple like Roman units in the river can't ignore flags unless with a leader, then that might have worked simply, and shown the fearfulness. Instead the straitjacketed history Special Rule is a game mechanic disaster.

"I will either find a way, or make one."
attrib to Hannibal Barca

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5 years 2 months ago #1621 by mk20336
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I confirm I had such situation - leader crosses, dies and then what? No unit able to move beside the river?

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5 years 2 months ago #1622 by BrentS
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I'd agree the scenario's broken as it is.....although it might not be evident on every play. My inclination would be to keep the spirit of the scenario and allow Roman units to cross in a section for the rest of the game once the leader had crossed, even if he was killed or forced back across the river thereafter.

Brent.

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2 years 5 months ago #2847 by GF1954
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Solitaire- Britons won 7 - 6. Actually was closer than I thought it would be. The Romans did get across the river on the left flank and in the center. I think this is longest I have ever played a scenario.

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2 months 1 week ago #3916 by manassas7509
That's how we played it. Once across the leader has sufficiently inspired his section to want to cross the river. Still painfully slow for the Romans. Fortunately Vassal gave me three Line Command cards and a Double Time so I was able to get into good positions to cross once the three leaders got across and managed to win the scenario handily. If the Britons were to ever get lucky and knock off a leader or two before he's able to get across the river I can see this degrading to a tedious ranged fire dual. Agree with the sentiment that the scenario rules are vague and not well thought out.

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