111 Hydaspes (326 BC)

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15 years 9 months ago - 15 years 9 months ago #42 by alecrespi
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15 years 4 months ago #375 by alecrespi
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Eric S. Raymond wrote some comments about this scenario on his webpage. CLICK HERE to read full article.

Macedonion infantry and cavalry (with Alexander as a special leader) against Indians with archers and elephants. This is a big, fun brawl. Historically, this is the battle that gave the the Diadochi (Alexander's generals) a vast desire for elephants in their armies — and, in fact, the elephants are key to the battle. They will wreak havoc on the Macedonian mediums and heavies if the Macedonian player doesn't learn how to counter with light infantry harassment tactics.
Maybe the indian slightly exotic weapons mix (heavy on longbowmen and elephants) makes it more fun to play, but on the other hand the Macedonians have the Alexander leader unit. His bonus battle die and morale effects make the Companion medium cavalry he starts with pretty nasty, but there can be worse fates for the Indian player — as I found out when I shot the Companions to ribbons and my opponent moved Alexander onto a heavy infantry unit. A six-battle-dice attack is no fun to be on the receiving end of; it will chew opposing units up pretty fast even when they evade.

Overall, well balanced. In my opinion one of the best compositions anywhere in the GMT scenario books.

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13 years 10 months ago #834 by King-Billy
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I played this one twice today, as both sides. In both games the Macedonians won, although by different ways.

As the Macedonians, I pushed my phalanx up early, using a double time card to present a solid front. Simon, my opponent, pushed his elephants forward to meet them. The phalanx failed. every single heavy infantry block was wiped out in the engagement. I had to pull back my centre, and used my left flank light infantry to clean up what remained of his elephants. Things were not looking good for Alexander, so I threw in the cavalry. Using both Companion units, one with Alaxander and the other with a leader, I smashed into the Indian left flank, carving through his cavalry and light infantry. He counterattacked with his remaining elephant, but I used a First Strike card to kiill it before it could have an effect. The Macedonians won 7 to 4.

We swapped sides, and the start was somewhat the same, with the phalanx advancing up the centre. I positioned my elephants to strike, and sent them in. This time he pulled out the First Strike card, and my elephants crumbled, followed by my right flank, the pikes of the phalanx sweeping all before them. Macedonians 7 to 3.

I think it is winnable by the Indians, if they get the elephants right. They need to get into the right position to strike, and cause as much damage as possible in their initial attack, because they do not last long. The Companion cavalry, particularly the one with Alexander, are a huge threat, four dice and can ignore two retreats and one sword dice. They should be the primary target of every light infantry unit in the Indian force to try and jag a leader hit against Alexander.

Bill

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13 years 8 months ago #877 by Tuscan-Centurion
As this report shows the flip-flop way of playing a scenario gives both players a taste of each side and in one sided scenarios - victory (hopefully!).
I have to add that this so far is my favorite CCA scenario and can't wait to play it as an EPIC game! B)

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13 years 8 months ago #892 by The-Admiral
Yes This one does appear a little one sided. Had a quick check of my results and solitaire was 4 games to 0 to Macedon and in a ftf with my brother he won 7-4.

It was 2 or 3 years ago but I recall him balking at all my elephants and saying how easily I would win. He had never faced them before and had seen me solitaire a game of Bagradas (Greg Blanchett) where the elephants had gone through the Romans like a hot knife through butter for a 6-3 win. I explained that Elephants can be very hit and miss, and my Indian Elephants on the Hydaspes definitely missed big time that day. My left wing cavalry fought a valiant comeback but from 3-0 down it was a lost cause.

But if the Elephants can do their stuff the Indians can win.

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13 years 5 months ago #964 by religon
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Played this solo reducing the Macedonian Command Cards to only 5. Macedonians still won 7-3 without real difficulty. Some poor card draws hurt Porus preventing the elephants from activating quickly.

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12 years 8 months ago #1139 by King-Billy
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It has been far to long since we had a gaming session of C&C A. We fixed that today.

I played this scenario twice today, firstly as the Indians, going down 6-7, then as the Macedonians, winning a massive 7-1, so two more wins for the Macedonians.

The first one was very, very close. I had the chance to win it, but botched up my last turn by attacking in the wrong order, allowing a unit that I should have destroyed to retreat. The elephants performed well, smashing the phalanx. It was Alexander and his Companions that pulled the Greeks out of the fire.

The second game was a lot closer than the score would make it appear. I only lost one full unit, but boy, most of my army was looking very sick. Eric, my opponent, seemed to be able t pull any dice combo he needed with his archers, reducing half a dozen units to half or less blacks.

Two double times allowed me to get my phalanx in among the Indian infantry, causing carnage, and winning the game for me.

We just have to do this more often!

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6 years 3 months ago #2311 by mk20336
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Very interesting end of the evening. I like this scenario - there is small hope that with good cards Indians can cause some troubles to Alex. And rightly so - I had two times Order Heavy plus Mounted Charge - you can see below that it was very helpful as majority of battle happened in center of Macedonian phalanx. In the end, Greeks finished game with no leader on the board and heavy loses - 6-3 for elephants owners:

PS. I am using figures for elephants which look then gorgeous :)
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2 years 1 week ago #4214 by Andygor
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At first glance at the balance of power, it seems that the Macedonians are significantly superior to the Indians in quality. But if you have the right order cards (Cavalry Charge, Darken the sky, Order Light Troops) the situation may not be in favor of the Macedonians.

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