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The Great War Mini Tournament 4 - Cambrai

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The Great War Mini Tournament 4 - Cambrai
Contact: gcallarigw

 

Scenarios
Rnd 1 126 - Cambrai (Siegfried Stellung Line - Part 2) - 20 November 1917
Rnd 2 131 - Cambrai (Fontaine-Notre-Dame) - 23-25 November 1917
Rnd3 133 - Cambrai (German Counter Attack) - 30 November 1917
Semi-Final 132 - Cambrai (Bourlon Village & Wood) - 23-25 November 1917
Final 130 - Cambrai (St. Quientin Canal) - 21 November 1917

Schedule of Games

This table shows the match-ups and scenarios for each round.  The Alpha Group will play the German side and the Beta Group will play the British side.

Preliminary Rounds Scenario: 
Round 1 gcallarigw 1 vs. 4 EZPickins 126 - Cambrai (Siegfried Stellung Line - Part 2) - 20 November 1917
Mark McG 2 vs. 5 Pickelhaube
Viridovilas 3 vs. 6 mk20336
Round 2 gcallarigw 1 vs. 5 Pickelhaube 131 - Cambrai (Fontaine-Notre-Dame) - 23-25 November 1917
Mark McG 2 vs. 6 mk20336
Viridovilas 3 vs.4 EZPickins
Round 3 gcallarigw 1 vs. 6 mk20336 133 - Cambrai (German Counter Attack) - 30 November 1917
Mark McG 2 vs. 4 EZPickins
Viridovilas 3 vs. 5 Pickelhaube

 

German Group  Banners Won Figures Lost
Player # Player ID R1 R2 R3 Total R1 R2 R3 Total
1 gcallarigw 7 8 2 17 32 35 38 105
2 Mark McG 8 8 7 23 21 23 23 67
3 Viridovilas 5 8 7 20 30 20 6 56
 
British Group  Banners Won Figures Lost
Player # Player ID R1 R2 R3 Total R1 R2 R3 Total
4 EZPickins 8 3 3 14 13 30 28 71
5 Pickelhaube 5 6 0 11 18 26 25 69
6 mk20336 8 5 7 20 16 21 11 48

 SEMI-FINALS

Semi-final Round Scenario
Alpha Match Mark McG Alpha1 vs. Alpha2 Viridovilas 132 - Cambrai (Bourlon Village & Wood) - 23-25 November 1917
Beta Match mk20336 Beta1 vs. Beta2 EZPickins

Results

Semi-finals  Banners Won Banners Lost/Blocks Lost
German Match Game 1 Game 2 TOTAL Game 1 Game 2 TOTAL
Mark McG  6  8 14  24  42 66
Viridovilas  9  9 18  30  28 58
British Match            
mk20336  9 9 18  46 18 64
EZPickins  8 8 16  34 47 81

FINALS

Final Round Scenario
Final Match Viridovilas Alpha winner vs. Beta winner mk20336 130 - Cambrai (St. Quientin Canal) - 21 November 1917

Please report match results in the discussion below, including figure losses

 

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mk20336 replied the topic: #910 6 days 16 hours ago
Sorry for delay guys, Max has pretty intensive time now so he could not play. I am fine with waiting.
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mk20336 replied the topic: #908 2 weeks 4 days ago

Mark McG wrote: did I miss a result here? Has the Final been played out?


Hi mark,
do you conflicting schedules we had to postpone our game couple of times. We are set to play next week.
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Mark McG replied the topic: #906 2 weeks 5 days ago
did I miss a result here? Has the Final been played out?
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Viridovilas replied the topic: #905 1 month 2 weeks ago
I agree with Michal,

Pls only be patient for about 10 days, since I’m currently leaving for work for a week or so.

I’ll contact Michal as soon as I’ll be back, in order to fix a day for the battle.

Max
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mk20336 replied the topic: #904 1 month 3 weeks ago
We will simply play a rematch and start to worry if the 19-9/10-7 result makes a difference.
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gcallarigw replied the topic: #903 1 month 3 weeks ago
No answers from Richard Borg, so I’d say 10-7.
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Mark McG replied the topic: #902 1 month 3 weeks ago
So what was the resolution here and when is the return match being played?
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gcallarigw replied the topic: #901 2 months 1 week ago

You can PM Richard Borg on BGG


That was my idea, too… Just done.
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mk20336 replied the topic: #900 2 months 1 week ago

gcallarigw wrote: Well, that is a turn start temporary medal objective, so as you said is immediately lost as soon as the unit vacates the hex. And the very same act of destroying the unit ends the game immediately. Which is "more immediately" ? I am personally inclined to think they are contemporary, so the final result is 10-7, but I have not found an official interpretation at a cursory search. I'll search more thoroughly and let you know.


You can PM Richard Borg on BGG or other medium and you should get answer pretty quickly. I am a bit puzzled with whole situation but seems that 10-7 is correct interpretation (although not wished by me :) ).
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Mark McG replied the topic: #899 2 months 1 week ago
I agree, simultaneous gain and loss of medaals
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gcallarigw replied the topic: #898 2 months 1 week ago
Well, that is a turn start temporary medal objective, so as you said is immediately lost as soon as the unit vacates the hex. And the very same act of destroying the unit ends the game immediately. Which is "more immediately" ? I am personally inclined to think they are contemporary, so the final result is 10-7, but I have not found an official interpretation at a cursory search. I'll search more thoroughly and let you know.
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Viridovilas replied the topic: #897 2 months 1 week ago
Sorry the actual score of the above mentioned match is German 10 - British 9 or 7 not 8 or 6 (can’t edit the text from my iPad)!
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Viridovilas replied the topic: #896 2 months 1 week ago
The Finals - Game 1

MichalK (British) 8 or 6 (???)
Viridovilas (German) 10

Please see the attached log. Me and Michal have been puzzled by a strange final: German has won by killing a British unit that was occupying a town hex. Being that hex vacant, the British should have also loosed the 2 VPs for controlling the town. We just know that the game ends at the instant the last unit is killed, but in the same instant the losing side has also lost the town control... How this situation is supposed to be ruled?

I hope to have been not too cryptic :)

If any has an idea (or the official rule interpretation) please share it with us

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File Name: Finalsmatc...-07.vlog
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mk20336 replied the topic: #895 2 months 2 weeks ago
Hi Guys,

we will be playing first final tomorrow, Friday, 1900 GMT (21 Central European Time).
You are welcome to join!

Regards,
Michal
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gcallarigw replied the topic: #894 2 months 2 weeks ago
Italia-Polonia!
Polska-Włochy!

Even better than a football match.
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Mark McG replied the topic: #893 2 months 2 weeks ago
FINALS
Scenario: 130 - Cambrai (St. Quientin Canal) - 21 November 1917

Viridovilas vs mk20336

record both match results below
Good Luck to you both
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mk20336 replied the topic: #892 2 months 2 weeks ago
Semifinals

Match2
mk20336 (British) 9 banners, 18-blocks lost
EzPickins (Germans) 8 banners, 47-blocks lost

Writing a short report just as we finished. We both agreed that was one of the best TGW games we EVER played. I lost 3 tanks, had many 1 and 2 block units on the board. Germans had Physician twice as well as Replacements. I was at the verge of collapse but still my British pulled teh victory! A lot can be said about that game and scenario but definitely that will be a game to remember...

On a side not, sorry for keeping you waiting guys - holiday season resulted in problems with scheduling the game but finally we did it.

File Attachment:

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mk20336 replied the topic: #891 3 months 3 weeks ago
Semifinals

Match1
mk20336 (Germans) 9 banners, 46-block lost
EzPickins (british) 8 banners, 34-block lost

That was long (2 sessions needed for that game), bloody (80 blocks lost in total - full 20 four-blocks units) and exciting game. Surprisingly, Germans had upper hand in the beginning but one nasty tank which bogged in trenches and absorbed like 20-30 attack dices was suborn to die. Finally it did but then the rest of forces was depleted and "paper lead" in VPs did not meant much. The game was exciting til the end and finished by the great German Combo - Storm of Fire + Mortar Barrage.

Great and exciting scenario!

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mk20336 replied the topic: #890 3 months 3 weeks ago
Guys,

just to update you - we play with Jon our semifinal games but due to the size of scenarios, timezone difference and vacation period it takes time to find enough amount of time :)
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Viridovilas replied the topic: #889 4 months 6 days ago
Semifinals

Match1
Mark McG 6 banners, 24-block lost (British)
Viridovilas 9 banners, 30-block lost (German)

Match2
Mark McG 8 banners, 42-block lost (German)
Viridovilas 9 banners, 28-block lost (British)

It was a tough battle in both cases. My British tanks show a better efficiency than the Mark ones (i.e. they bogged down a lot less than his). And that was the main difference that led to the different outcome. In the first battle it proved to be decisive a machine gun provided with a heavy loader on the German right wing. It pinned for a while the British advance on that side of the battlefield, giving the rest of the army the time to reorganize and counterattack. During the return match, after an initial attack of the British infantries immediately repelled by the German defenders, the tanks took the centre of the stage and really proved to be unstoppable (they took an overall total of only two hits in the all battle). A final armoured charge on a machine gun fortified position on the British right closed the battle, after the allied had already secured the village of Bourlon.

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Viridovilas replied the topic: #888 4 months 1 week ago
Thanks Gabriele for the clarification
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gcallarigw replied the topic: #887 4 months 1 week ago
In similar cases I played giving the maximum number of banners to the winning side, and what he actually achieved to the loser. So 9 to the British and what they have at the moment to the Germans.
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Viridovilas replied the topic: #886 4 months 1 week ago
Just a question:
I have given a look at the battle scheduled for the Semi-final.
How are we supposed to consider the case of British achieving a sudden victory due to no German unit occupying any Bourlon Wood hexes?

Shall we record it as a 9-0 victory of British? Or we may count the points German collected till the moment of the sudden victory...

Any ideas?

Max aka Viridovilas
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gcallarigw replied the topic: #885 4 months 2 weeks ago
Tanks and stoßtruppen push on!
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Mark McG replied the topic: #884 4 months 2 weeks ago
SEMI-FINALS
Scenario: 132 - Cambrai (Bourlon Village & Wood) - 23-25 November 1917
Germans
MarkMcG vs. Viridovilas

Brits
mk20336 vs. EZPickins

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