216 Krasnoi (17 November 1812)

216 Krasnoi (17 November 1812)

Are Victory Banners awarded for destroying units as normal in addition to the Special Rules? If so, this can be a very quick scenario!

What do you mean exact (a example helps always a lot)?

All other units, except the Special rules of the weak 2block French LN, counts as normal VP, if they are destroyed.

And i noticed, that many players don´t see the key for a French victory

so if the French get no Left cards, and no means to move that unit sitting on the exit hex, this scenario can go sour very quick.
In the reverse, an initial Bayonet Charge or a LGM card can really work well.

But the Russians could have 5 Victory Banners after their first move.

Mark McG wrote: so if the French get no Left cards, and no means to move that unit sitting on the exit hex, this scenario can go sour very quick.
In the reverse, an initial Bayonet Charge or a LGM card can really work well.

But the Russians could have 5 Victory Banners after their first move.

This is my point. Look at the two French LI on / near the bridge. 1 VB for destroying two LI (special rule) and 2 VB for each LI destroyed (normal rule) gives almost 50% of the total required and is easily done.

Bayernkini wrote: All other units, except the Special rules of the weak 2block French LN, counts as normal VP, if they are destroyed.

So does the Russian player not get the normal 1 VB if he destroys a 2 block French LI?

The scenario notes are clear:

The russian player get 1VP for every 2 destroyed French 2block LN:

Destroyed 1. AND 2. French LN = 1VP for russian
Destroyed 3. French LN = nothing (similar COS)
Destroyed 3. AND 4. French LN = 1VP for russian
Destroyed 5. French LN = nothing (similar COS)
Destroyed 5. AND 6. French LN = 1VP for russian

hope, this is clear now

But as i said, the important key is also, that the russian Player loose command cards.
This scenario note is also underrated as the COS general in russian games, because player play the COS simple wrong

Achtung Panzer wrote:

Bayernkini wrote: All other units, except the Special rules of the weak 2block French LN, counts as normal VP, if they are destroyed.

So does the Russian player not get the normal 1 VB if he destroys a 2 block French LI?

To clarify: Each 2 block French LI units are only worth half a banner each total - not in addition to the usual banners.

Sorted

Just played this today. I had the Russians. Played LGM on second turn. French played counter attack. By the end of the third turn the French had 4 VPs and Russians only had 3 command cards. Final was French 7-3, but would have been 8-2 if we had finished the final turn.

yeah, LGM has a way of breaking scenarios with Exit VP.