MegaEpic Vitoria

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10 years 1 week ago - 9 years 9 months ago #1393 by nekengren
MegaEpic Vitoria was created by nekengren
I have created my own "epic" version of Vitoria.

6/30/2014 UPDATE
Version 3.0 was built and run at HMGSS Recon Orlando, FL
ekengrengaming.blogspot.com/
Changed the Epic rules a bit and changed the construction.
I'm quite happy with 3.0 now. So onward to the next MegaEpic scenario Borodino.







Lots of discussion posted here. I have already run this at HMGS Huricon Orlando and will be running version 2.0 at the upcoming HMGS Recon Orlando April 2014.
Vitoria CCN

Video of the guys playing here
Video of game in progress

The map is custom 2 inch hexagons on MDF board with 3D terrain. I mounted Risk miniatures on poker chips for units.
The tactics and rules of CCN are unchanged.
All I have done is some strategic/card changes to handle multi-player and mega-map.

I will be posted discussion about version 2.0 of the terrain and marker changes soon.

neal ekengren
Last edit: 9 years 9 months ago by nekengren.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Bayernkini, Mark-McG

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10 years 1 week ago - 10 years 1 week ago #1394 by Bayernkini
Replied by Bayernkini on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
A Player/Website friendly picture of the setup would be nice,
best a setup picture with Vassal
with Scenario notes (look to the other "epic" examples) :)

My dice are the hell!
Last edit: 10 years 1 week ago by Bayernkini.

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10 years 1 week ago #1431 by nekengren
Replied by nekengren on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
yeah i really should work up the vassal map and make it a real scenario.

i certainly put enough research into this darn thing.

neal ekengren

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10 years 1 week ago #1441 by nekengren
Replied by nekengren on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
so now I have the Vassal mod and extension. I see the new winter/desert maps.

However........

To layout my custom Vitoria I need a custom 41 x 14 map.
Can I create a generic Vassal map and use the nice CCN units?
or maybe i can just lay this thing out on some standard epic map format.
hmmmm.

neal ekengren

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10 years 1 week ago - 10 years 1 week ago #1442 by Bayernkini
Replied by Bayernkini on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
I´ll try to create a map and add it to the Extension. Where are the sections?

But a 14 hex deep map is asynchron, so bottom row is smaller in width. So the map should have then a 15 hex deep row size.
See example below.

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But remember, if players want to reenact play your scenario, they need any available maps, with the standard sizes. So any Special map setups should keep the existing sizes or should been any multiple size of the available maps, so the players can add 2 or more existing maps together :)

The current sizes of all C&C games are (you see it into the Epic Vassal Extension):

- 13x9 (Standard)
- 26x9 (Epic)
- 13x17 (MM44 Breakthrough)
- 17x13 (Battlelore Epic)
- 26x11 (MM44 Special epic - Operation Market Garden)

My dice are the hell!
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10 years 6 days ago #1444 by nekengren
Replied by nekengren on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
Michael,

yes, i think i should reformat my battle to fit in "standard" maps. it will be close enough.
I think 3 times 17x13 (Battlelore Epic) would work.

I have built my own hexagon map on a wood MDF board. That is why the weird dimensions.

I actually don't have flanks marked because I am using a modified rules system. However, it can be played straight up with the standard 3 flanks on the 3 Battlelose Epic maps. My version has the 3 section commanders control their troops (center section has special markers to keep troops differentiated) throughout play even if they cross "flanks". This allows some manner of strategic flanking manuevers if desired.

The biggest difference with my rules is a "leadership" bonus for each section. Allied commanders get a +3. This means 3 extra activations each turn AND 3 "move only" activations each turn. Since each commander has about 25 regiments this keeps the massive force moving. It also means a Scout card is not so terrible and an Assault card is a massive assault. I am quite happy how the battle works out this way. Nobody has any down time or weak moves, the battle plays out more like one of my war games, the CCN tactics remain awesome, and you even get situations like Bombard and CavCharge can contribute to combined arms. Woof.

Originally I had 12 people play this thing which allowed a more normal card deck and Epic type play. However, the small 2 inch hexes creates a situation where 12 people packed around a 7 foot board is just too much coziness. I downsized to 6 players and changed the card play accordingly.

neal ekengren

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10 years 6 days ago - 10 years 6 days ago #1445 by Bayernkini
Replied by Bayernkini on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
3 times a Battlelore Epic map would be great, then you can spread the complete setup to 3 single BL epic maps (they are available in the Vassal epic Extension) and share then the 3 single Epic maps here :)

Also your modified rules with Cards and sections would be great then,
you can take a look to the new 6 Breakthrough Memoir 44 maps, which can added together to one big Scenario :)
Maybe you can adapt their rules then, and because of your connections, you can ask Richard, maybe he offered such a "biiiiig" Napoleonics Scenario in future too ;)

My dice are the hell!
Last edit: 10 years 6 days ago by Bayernkini.

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10 years 6 days ago #1450 by nekengren
Replied by nekengren on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
I have Vassal Battlore and I see the Epic map in the extension. Works fine.
But won't that extension only work with Battlelore?
I imported this extension into CCN and it did put it in the right folder CCNapoleonics2.4_ext but no maps show when creating a CCN scenario.
I'm thinking the only way is to create a CCN extension that contains that Battlore Epic map.
Good opportunity for me to figure out all this Vassal stuff.

neal ekengren

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10 years 6 days ago - 10 years 6 days ago #1451 by Bayernkini
Replied by Bayernkini on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
Neal, there is a CCNapoleonics Epic Vassal module, you can download it here

www.ccnapoleonics.net/category/3-modules.html

and a CCNapoleonics Epic Vassal Extension, to download here

www.ccnapoleonics.net/category/4-extensions.html

there are all Special size maps in as you can see on this example Scenario :)


My dice are the hell!
Last edit: 10 years 6 days ago by Bayernkini.

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10 years 5 days ago #1455 by nekengren
Replied by nekengren on topic MegaEpic Vitoria
oh my. thanks.
ok I got the new CCN Epic installed.
and I see the maps I need.
and I can create 3 columns of 13x17 map.

I want to create a Vitoria scenario.
Am I saving as a .vsav game file?

neal ekengren

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