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7 years 10 months ago #3632 by Bangla
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I think Bayern is right. The retreat/retire definition isn't ideal, and I have always considered the infantry firing at the cavalry as they retire ... not meleeing ... but given Richard's ruling, then I guess the infantry can not only take the ground, but then can use the Inspired Infantry Leader card to make a second attack. At least the cavalry can't be attacked again though, as they will have retreated out of range.

Vince, IIRC, I've prevented folks from taking ground in such cases in the past ... my ignorance in this case. I guess we read what we want to read rather than what's on the page sometimes. At least it'll now be imprinted on my brain and I shall inevitably always take ground in the future, he, he.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #3633 by sebringellis
To me Vacating and Retiring do feel very different to the movement of Retreating-Thus only Cavalry symbols scoring hits.And to be fair,the Tactitian Card does only specify Retreating.So what is Richard saying? Is he saying there is no distinction between retiring and retreating? If so fair enough-or is he simply saying that while he acknowledges there is a distinction betweeen the two, the Tactitian Card applies regardless? Anyway,now we know it can be played,this means that:


* Because a Cavalry Unit could Retire only 1 Hex occupied by a Leader,it could be attacked a second time by means of this Tactitian Card
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7 years 10 months ago #3639 by Superman
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If you look on page 16 of the rule book you will see an illustration of a cavalry unit performing a "retire and reform". Notice in the diagram that the retiring cavalry unit moves two hexes through wooded terrain. A normal move would make the unit stop when it enters terrain, but in a retreat you ignore the "must stop" rule. Therefore a "retire and reform" is like a retreat, and therefore the inspired infantry leader card may be played.

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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #3642 by sebringellis
I'm probably being slightly pedantic come to think of it.Richard has said the Tactitian Card can be played so that's the main thing.
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7 years 10 months ago #3643 by TheMP
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Whilst here it might be 'nicer' if you phrase some of your posts in a somewhat politer format? Some of them come across as not particularly friendly. That in itself will put off people communicating with you.
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7 years 10 months ago #3644 by Superman
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If your question is: does retire and reform constitute a retreat? (For purposes of this particular tac card), Then my answer is yes because the unit moves like a retreating unit with respect to terrain. I.e. It essentially ignores all but impassable terrain, so it's a type of retreat. That's the way I play it with my opponent. Play it any way you wish.
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7 years 10 months ago - 7 years 10 months ago #3645 by sebringellis
Sorry TheMP you're totally right-i only had a few hours sleep last night and i realise i am sounding a bit sharp,and that's not acceptable.I'm reediting right now.Thanks for putting me right.

Thanks for your help superman, i think my question was unnecessary and a little pedantic in hindsight-sorry if i came across rude,that was not my intention.The main thing is that the Tactitian Card can be played.
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3 years 2 months ago #6905 by pmiranda-napoleonics
Is the second melee combat allowed if the unit took ground into a town hex ("A unit may not battle the turn it moves onto a Town type hex")?

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3 years 2 months ago #6906 by Bayernkini
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Then we will look at the rules of expansion 5

www.commandsandcolors.net/napoleonics/th...ics-expansion-5.html

and you will found this text passage in the description of the Tactician cards

"....• Terrain movement and battle restrictions will always apply, unless stated otherwise on the Tactician card....."

My dice are the hell!
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1 year 2 weeks ago - 11 months 2 weeks ago #8095 by bartok
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Reading this text passage "....• Terrain movement and battle restrictions will always apply, unless stated otherwise on the Tactician card....."
the answer is NOT.

Is the second melee combat allowed if the unit took ground into a town hex?      ..................... NOT.
Same for Forest (except Light and similars, YG).

-Take Ground is a MUST, i dont know why the card text "may".
-What happen after 2nd melee. May Took Ground again? (This is not a must).


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