Caldiero 1805

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6 years 2 weeks ago #1897 by Tarheel
Caldiero 1805 was created by Tarheel
This is a work in progress at this time. Needing to work on play balance. Real battle has FR outnumbered, so may need to decr number of FR and reduce hand size of AU to 4, unsure.

In any event, have a go at it and let me know how plays out for you so I can see if needs adjustment over time. Tried to use the real OOB to come close to what was present, but feel like there are more FR than in reality. Step count however is about 10 more for the AU.
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6 years 2 weeks ago - 6 years 2 weeks ago #1899 by Bayernkini
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A visual setup for non Vassal players :)

And it seems, the scenario design with Vassal was no problem,
so we all looking forward, to see more fanmade scenarios in future ;)




Battle Notes

Austrian Army
• Archduke Charles
• 5 Command Cards
• Move First

French Army
• Commander: André Masséna
• 6 Command Cards


Victory Condition:
7 Victory Banners


Special Rules

• The battle began in a significant fog. During the first three turns, no unit may move more
than 1 space and all ranged fire is limited to 2 hexes.

• The three town hexes make up a temporary victory banner objective. Any player
occupying all three at the start of thier turn, earns 2 victory points.

• The Adige River is impassable except at the ford and bridge.

• Reinforcements:
The ford and bridge represent possible reinforcement locations for the Austrian and French players respectively. Units fighting on the opposite bank of the Adige
can be brought onto the field of battle one at a time provided that the entry location nor any of the adjacent hexes are occupied by the opponent. The reinforcing unit is placed
immediately on the entry location by discarding a card of choice instead of playing it on that turn. If entitled to do so, the unit may continue to move, terrain allowing, but the
entry space counts as the first hex of movement. The following reinforcements may be taken once each at players discretion:

French: Line Inf, Light Inf, Light Cav,
Austrian: Grenz Inf, Grenz Inf, Light Inf, Light Cav, HA

My dice are the hell!
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6 years 2 weeks ago #1900 by Tarheel
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Thanks! Now to learn how to post scenarios your way!

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6 years 2 weeks ago #1901 by Bayernkini
Replied by Bayernkini on topic Caldiero 1805

Thanks! Now to learn how to post scenarios your way!


Add the scenario picture (size not larger than 1MB) in same way, as you did it with the Vassal savefile, direct into a post
and add also the scenario notes as simple text ;)

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6 years 2 weeks ago #1903 by Tarheel
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In the player notes:

This info taken from a historical reference I found on the web

By October 1805, Massena's French army had settled into a stalemate with his Austrian enemy, Archduke Charles. The two sides lingered on opposite banks of the Adige River, until Massena received word of Napoleon's victory at Ulm. This news encouraged the French commander to order an immediate offensive, despite being outnumbered.
When Archduke Charles learned of the catastrophe at Ulm, he made plans to withdraw his 50,000 men closer to Austrian soil, in case his forces would be required to defend Vienna from Napoleon. But Massena's sudden crossing of the Adige forced the archduke to check the French advance, offering his army time and space to withdraw safely. Thus, the two sides attacked each other in the thick fog of October 30, spread out across a wide, hilly front. Both Massena and Archduke Charles had deployed considerable forces on the far bank of the Adige River with the hope of turning their opponent's flank. Their main armies--about 25,000 and 32,000, respectively, met along main Verona road passing through the town of Caldiero.

Massena divided his army into three wings: his left wing would capture the Colognola Heights, his center would take Caldiero, and his right wing would surprise the Austrians by flanking them south of the Adige River. This ambitious plan fell apart quickly, when the Austrians struck first on both wings. In the center, the French attack developed slowly, allowing the Austrians to shift reinforcements to assist in the defense of Caldiero. The indecisive battle ended with darkness, and Archduke Charles elected to withdraw from his positions. The stalemate cost both sides roughly 5,000 men. Massena then pursued the Charles through Italy.

Depending upon how it plays, card balance will be the main issue. Listed as 5 and 6, play may show needs to be adjusted. You guys can help me out as we see lots of play

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6 years 5 days ago #1952 by Mark-McG
Replied by Mark-McG on topic Caldiero 1805
Played this last night vs Michael, and it was a tough match ending in a 7-6 Austrian win. However, could have gone either way.

Mainly our thoughts were on making the SSR wording more precise.

Special Rules:
The three town hexes make up a temporary victory banner objective. Any player
occupying all three at the start of thier turn, earns 2 victory points.


Maybe rephrase to make the 3 Town hexes a Temporary Group Victory Banner Objective Hexes (Turn Start) worth 2 Victory Banners.

The battle began in a significant fog. During the first three turns, no unit may move more
than 1 space and all ranged fire is limited to 2 hexes.


Some confusion over what constitutes a turn, since in the rules a turn is defined as a 'player turn'. What we thought was meant was the first 3 player turns for each player, or the first 6 player turns. As a further thought, a variable fog would enhance replayability, so if at the start of each player's turn they rolled a die, and on a FLAG the Fog lifts at the end of their player turn for the remainder of the game.

We didn't try sneaking up through the fog.

The reinforcement rule caused us the greatest confusion. The intention we believed was a single unit could be brought on by playing a card, and substituting all card effects for placing a single unit. There are some cards that have extra effects like Elán and Scout that should be considered.

In the match, the French entered 2 units (during the fog), and the Austrians none.

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
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6 years 5 days ago - 6 years 2 days ago #1953 by Tarheel
Replied by Tarheel on topic Caldiero 1805
I agree with you on these items. I also like variable fog idea.

I have incorporated these items into the following updated file.

Here are the new special rules/background/etc and the vsav file.

Oct 30, 1805, 10AM

By October 1805, massena's French army had settled into a stalemate with his
Austrian enemy, Archduke Charles. The two sides lingered on opposite banks of the
Adige river, until Massena received word of Napoleon's victory at Ulm. This news
encouraged the French commander to order an immediate offensive, despite being
outnumbered.

When Archduke Charles learned of the catastrophe at Ulm, he made plans to withdraw his
50000 men clsoer to Austrian soil, in case his forces would be required to defend Vienna
from Napoleon. But Massena's sudden crossing of the Adige forced the archduke to check
the French advance, offering his army time and space to withdraw safely. Thus the two
sides attacked each other in the thick fog of October 30, spread out across a wide hilly
front. Both Massena and Archduke Charles had deployed considerable forces on the far
bank of the Adige River with the hope of turning their opponent's flank. Their main armies,
about 25,000 and 32,000, respectively, met along main Verona road passing through the
town of Caldiero.

Massena divided his army into three wings: his left wing would capture the Colognola
Heights, his center would take Caldiero, and his right wing would surprise the Austrians
by flanking them south of the Adige River. This ambitiuos plan fell apart quickly, when
the Austrians struck first on both wings. In the center, the French attack developed slowly,
allowing the Austrians to shift reinforcements to assist in the defense of Caldiero. The
indecisive battle ended with darkness and Archduke Charles elected to withdraw from
his positions. The stalemate cost both sides roughly 5000 men. Massena then pursued
Charles through Italy.

You are now the general in charge, can you change history?

Victory: 7 banners

Special Rules:

The three town hexes make up aTemporary Group Victory Banner Objective
(turn start) worth 2 Victory Banners.

The battle began in a significant fog. After each players turn, roll one die, and upon
rolling a flag result, the fog will lift at the start of the next players turn. Fog limits ranged
fire to 2 hexes, and no unit may move more than 1 hex per turn, regardless of card
played.

The ford and bridge represent possible reinforcement locations for the Austrian
and French players respectively. Units fighting on the opposite bank of the Adige
can be brought onto the field of battle one at a time provided that the entry location nor
any of the adjacent hexes are occupied by the opponent. On your turn, you may play
A card to place one reinforcing unit is at your entry location instead of playing it for its usual
effect. The reinforcing unit is considered to be ordered and the entry hex is considered
to be its first hex of movement. The following reinforcements may be
taken once each at each players discretion:
French: Line Inf, Light Inf, Light Cav,
Austrian: Grenz Inf, Grenz Inf, Light Inf, Light Cav, HA
(NOTE: If elan is discarded this way, the reshuffle direction will still occur. If a scout is
discarded, the player may still draw 2 cards and choose one to keep)


Austrian Command: 5 cards (move first)
French Command: 6 cards

The Adige River is impassable except at the ford and bridge.
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6 years 5 days ago #1955 by Tarheel
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I would like to submit this scenario into the system officially. I feel its ready. How do I put this into a 'publishable' format to list in the scenarios section?

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6 years 5 days ago #1957 by Bayernkini
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Send the Vassal file with complete/final rules to Alessandro.

He will add your scenario then to the scenario list.

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6 years 4 days ago - 6 years 4 days ago #1960 by Tarheel
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And where is the link to his email address?

Never mind, found it at top
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