Cossacks in my garden

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2 years 1 week ago - 2 years 1 week ago #5508 by GG
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Hello all,

One question about the Cossacks: They "ignore forest terrain melee combat dice reduction" but because the rule only says "FOREST" I suppose the rule do not apply with Orchards & Vineyards nor with Walled Gardens? I'm just surprised they can fight in a wild forest but not in a clean vineyard ... ?! On the other hand the Walled Gardens (and not the Orchards) are say to "have all the characteristics and effects as a forest terrain tile hex" so the Cossacks would be able to ignore the dice reduction toward this fortified place and not toward the tender Orchards & Vineyards ... ??

GG
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2 years 1 week ago #5509 by Bayernkini
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In selfmade scenarios, there should be no problem, to use scenario rules, which class the vineyark/orchard terrain with the forest rules for Cossacks.
I would not allow the "Cossack" rule with walled terrain, because "walled" is a higher-value cover and hindrance than only woods/orchard terrain.

In official scenarios there is still a different gameplay, maybe also because of simplicity.
But i will ask Richard, what his original intention was.

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2 years 1 week ago #5511 by Bayernkini
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Ok, Richards intention here is/was,
that Vineyards are different and would be more restrictive than a Forest, so Cossacks can’t ignore when in a Vineyard hex.

But he will nevertheless thinking about it, to equal it with the forest.

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2 years 1 week ago #5514 by GG
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OK TY Michael!

So for the moment Cossacks can't ignore the Orchards, Vineyards and Walled Gardens melee dice reduction and so they can't melee during the turn they just arrived into them.

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2 years 1 week ago #5515 by Bayernkini
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and so they can't melee during the turn they just arrived into them.


That´s wrong, every unit may battle in the turn they enters a vineyard/orchard hex.
But CAV, including COS get a -1 penalty battle in/out.

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2 years 1 week ago #5516 by GG
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For sure you are right - I was on the Walled Garden - OK that the Cossack cannot attack when they arrive on a Walled Garden?

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2 years 1 week ago #5517 by Mark-McG
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too tired after lifting the horses over the walls :woohoo:

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2 years 1 week ago - 2 years 1 week ago #5518 by GG
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To conclude the Cossacks would follow all the normal terrain rules so would reduce minus 1 die when fighting toward of out of a Orchard & Vineyard and would not fight after entering a Walled Garden. On the other hand they would ignore combat dice reductions only with pure FOREST were they can:

1) Enter inside a forest and still combat!
2) Ignore any combat rule while fighting out of a forest!
3) Ignore any combat rule while fighting toward a forest!

But still:
4) Must stop when entering a forest!

ARF! :unsure:
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2 years 1 week ago - 2 years 1 week ago #5519 by GG
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Are we OK?
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2 years 3 days ago #5524 by Bayernkini
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I was on the Walled Garden - OK that the Cossack cannot attack when they arrive on a Walled Garden?


Finally Richard confirmed, that the special "Forest" rule for Cossacks apply to forest only,
also if some other terrain have a low level hindrance than a forest or a terrain would refer to forest (as a walled garden e.g.).

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