Questions about terrains

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13 years 5 months ago #1086 by jmontero
Hi.

I'm having several doubts about rules governing terrains. Keeo in mind that I'm a newbie.

About Fordable Rivers, the 3rd edition rules state "After a successful Close Combat, a unit on a fordable river hex may make a Momentum Advance out of that hex". What does it means? Is it restricted to momentum advance out of other terrains and is it allowed for fordable rivers? (assuming you entered in a previous turn).

Another thing: it's restricted to some units the bonus combat after a momentum advance into the terrain, like broken grounds and forests. Should I assume it's restricted too for fordable rivers? (because you have to stop when enter, as you do in broken grounds and forests).

And finally, how do you resolve momentum advance and bonus combat when you're on the terrain hex and attack a unit on the same terrain as you are?

Thanks a lot.

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13 years 5 months ago #1087 by berfo
Replied by berfo on topic Re:Questions about terrains
Hi, Im also newbie and have no much experience, but reading and reading rules and pots..

I understand that, from Fordable Rivers, so like Marsh and any terrain hex where you have to stop when enter, if your unit may battle also may have a momentum advance.

About the last question, I don't really know what you mean.. if you are wondering about dice rolls it depends of the terrain rules (if there is any restrictions like on hills..).

Well, If someone more expert in this matters wanna help..
that's what I understand jmontero. (español?)

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13 years 5 months ago - 13 years 5 months ago #1088 by jmontero
Hi Berfo. Thanks for replying.

I understand that, from Fordable Rivers, so like Marsh and any terrain hex where you have to stop when enter, if your unit may battle also may have a momentum advance.


Yes, but the rulebook explicitly states that you can make a momentum advance out of that hex ... does it reffers to momentum advance out of the river? should I assume that it's not allowed to momentum advance to another river hex? (I mean, remaining inside the river)

In my last question, in other words, I'm asking what rules apply for momentum advancing and bonus combat when both, the attacking and the defending units, are on adjacent terrain hexes (so, you're neither battling into nor out the terrain).

I'm Venezuelan and I speak spanish.
Last edit: 13 years 5 months ago by jmontero. Reason: minor mispelling

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13 years 5 months ago #1092 by jmontero
Because nobody answered, I had to answer my own questions after a long research. Here's the link to a BGG forum.

www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/148262/mome...acks-and-terrain/new

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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #3651 by bartok
Replied by bartok on topic Re:Questions about terrains
3rd edition River rules
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brian
@ColtsFan76
Hey Richard-

A new discussion is up on BGG Ancients about momentum advance from a fordable river. Situation is cavalry moved into a fordable river hex and battled on the same turn. The target hex was vacated. Can the Cavalry now move into and pursue?

Richard Borg
@richard borg
(RB) The cavalry unit that moves onto a fordable rive hex must stop and may move no further on that turn.

The confusion may come form the last line under battle.
"After a successful Close Combat, a unit on a fordable river hex may make a Momentum Advance out of that hex."
This line actually applies to a unit that actually starts its move on a fordable river hex.

The following rewrite might of made it a little clearer...
"A unit that starts the turn on a fordable river hex and makes a successful Close Combat may make a Momentum Advance out of the fordable river hex."
This email exchange was copied from Richard to Tony Curtis at GMT so I suspect it will be changed in the FAQ if GMT agrees.

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Then Example 1, Warriors make CC, and Momentum Advance and Bonus Close Combat but cant gain terrain (out of the fordable river). Is correct the Bonus Close Combat?
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Example 2, Warrios make CC out of the fordable vs Lights, and Bonus Close Combat vs Heavy. If they decide fight against Medium in the river, is the same as Example 1.
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