Bowmen in C&CA

Hi all, thanks very much for the add. I hope this is the right place to post this, I've just come across ScenarioX which looks a great idea for converting DBA to C&CA. However comparing the two there doesn't seem to be an equivalent in C&CA to the 'Bow' unit in DBA - using Light Infantry bow doesn't seem to reflect the greater numbers in a Bow unit and the Psiloi class in DBA covers Lights already. Does anyone have any ideas for Bows in C&CA? I know its going to be a new troop type and I've come up with the following I'm about to play test for a Palmyran army (DBA II/74 ) that requires 3 x Bowmen: 4 blocks / Move 1&B or 2 & NB / Range 3 / Fire (hold) 3 dice / Fire (move) 2 dice / Melee 3 dice no sword hits / Retreat 1 / no evade. My only concern is there may be too much firepower but hopefully that will be countered by the weaker melee ability. Time to get some blocks on a board! Cheers

what is the problem with using Light Bow?
www.commandsandcolors.net/ancients/the-g...bow-infantry-lb.html

Well according to DBA Bows are foot formed in bodies who shoot at longer range than Psiloi, often in volleys at a command. Psiloi (Ps) are skirmishers who hang around being a nuisance using various weapons. So in C&CA terms LI bow aren't able to represent DBA Bows, they appear to be different things hence my attempt to try a new Unit Type for C&CA. I'd like to extend C&CA into the Wars of the Roses where Bowmen definitely can't be represented by LI bow. Cheers

If you ask questions, maybe you should pay ATTENTION TO THE ANSWERS rather than lecturing on DBA

So again.. what is the problem with using LIGHT BOW units?
www.commandsandcolors.net/ancients/the-g...bow-infantry-lb.html

These units are different to LIGHT INFANTRY, which Psiloi would be a subset of.
www.commandsandcolors.net/ancients/the-g...ght-infantry-li.html

However, before you extend C&C Ancients in the late Medieval period, you might want to consider C&C Medieval
www.commandsandcolors.net/medieval/

Wow sorry I didn't mean to offend as I obviously have, I did read your answer and was not attempting to lecture about DBA rather engage in a friendly discussion. I do have Medieval and it is an excellent game. Apologies for having troubled the forum it won't happen again.

I am not offended, but the second response was intended to shock you into attention. The essence of discussion is that you open the conversation, I make a response, you respond etc.

So I asked you why the existing Light Bow unit was not sufficient, since it seems to have close to the attributes you propose for this new unit.
You seemed to ignore this and continue to discuss Light Infantry, again with reference to DBA units with which you are familiar.

So for the third time I ask, why is the C&C Ancients Light Bow unit not the equivalent of the unit in DBA, and since that Light Bow unit has almost exactly the same stats as the ones that you propose, I'm not seeing why you would need to create a new unit in C&C?

If you want a discussion, then discuss this point.

Your proposed unit
Bowmen: 4 blocks / Move 1&B or 2 & NB / Range 3 / Fire (hold) 3 dice / Fire (move) 2 dice / Melee 3 dice no sword hits / Retreat 1 / no evade

Light Bow: 4 blocks / Move 2 & B / Range 3 / Fire (hold) 2 dice / Fire (move) 1 dice / Melee 2 dice no sword hits / Retreat 2 / evade

they seem VERY similar to me.

Why not use Aux w/bow shooting.
There is already Persian Medium Infantry with bow.
Also works with Indian massed bow units.
Just a suggestion.
Not in to DBA but do tinker with rules a bit.